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Post by kiwimom on Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:42 pm

A text message blast went out earlier to mobilize a search in Borough
Park, Brooklyn for nine-year-old Leibby Kletzky, who was last seen
leaving a local day camp yesterday, and community leaders are offering
$100,000 for any information leading to the boy's return.The boy's father left with police officers this afternoon for undisclosed reasons, and it's unclear where they were taking him.



Leibby Kletzky



Authorities say Leibby was last seen leaving the Boyan
Day Camp on 1205 44th Street between 12th and 13th Avenues shortly
before 5 p.m. Monday. He went missing after a previously arranged break from his normal routine.“He
normally took a bus down, you know, like every child, he wanted a
little bit of independence, wanted to do a little bit of walking on his
own,” said Brooklyn Assemblyman Dov Hikind. “So they had decided that
they were going to — instead of walking all the way home, the mother was
going to meet him just two blocks or so away from the day camp. The day
camp is at 12th Avenue and 44th street, and the mother was meeting him
at 13th Avenue, just one street over. Never arrived. Never showed up.”Leibby, also known by the Hebrew name "Yehuda ben Esther," is four feet tall and weighs 50 pounds. He
was last seen wearing a blue shirt with green and white stripes, blue
pants, a black leather belt, black socks and black sneakers, and had a
knapsack labeled “Nechmod Day Camp.” Police and volunteers canvassed the area last night and searched stores, alleyways and backyards.Hikind and two other community leaders are offering $100,000 to anyone with information leading to the boy's safe return.Anyone
with information on the case should contact the the Shomrim Patrol at
1-718-871-6666 or the Crime Stoppers hotline at 1-800-577-TIPS. They can
also reach Crime Stoppers by texting CRIMES and then enter TIP577, or
visiting www.nypdcrimestoppers.com.http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/142729/search-continues-for-missing-brooklyn-boy


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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by kiwimom on Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:45 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Massive search for missing 9-year-old boy in New York City enters its second day
New York City : NY : USA
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A frame from a surveillance tape shows 9-year-old Leiby Kleztky walking
along 44th Street near 14th Avenue around 5 p.m. Monday night.


NEW YORK (July 12, 2011) — An 8-year-old boy, missing since Monday, is the
subject of a massive search, and the investigation has been handed over
to NYPD’s Major Case Squad. Leiby Kleztky, white, about 4 feet
tall and 50 pounds, was last seen leaving his day camp about 4:50 p.m.
at Yeshiva Boyan, on 44th Street in Borough Park. He was wearing a
blue shirt with green and white stripes, blue pants and a black belt
and sneakers. He is in good mental and physical health, authorities
said. His parents, waiting seven blocks away, said Leiby never
showed up. According to NBC in New York, this was the first time he was
allowed to leave the camp on his own. A massive search has been
underway by volunteers from the community and neighboring states.
Assemblyman Dov Hikind, D-Brooklyn, said volunteers, including buses of
volunteers from New Jersey, spent the night searching the streets,
parks, yards, and alleyways for Leiby. More volunteers, in the hundreds, are coming in from the Catskills, Rockland and Westchester counties, to help with the search. Jacob
Daskal, a member of the Shomrim volunteer civilian patrol, told the
Post, "It might be an abduction, but we're still hoping it's not." Daskal
said the Leiby was last seen on a surveillance tape leaving the camp,
however, Major Case is also looking into conflicting reports about
whether he was actually seen on the tape. However, a report just
released on The Yeshiva World News today published a surveillance photo
showing Leiby walking on 44th street near 14th Avenue on Monday evening.
NYPD’s Major Case is looking into the footage. Hikind’s office
said it’s offering a $100,000 reward for information regarding Leiby’s
whereabouts. The NYS Alert website has issued a “missing child alert”. Anyone with information in regards to this missing child is asked to call the NYPD's Crime Stoppers Hotline at 800-577-TIPS.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/9658336-breaking-news-massive-search-for-missing-9yearold-boy-in-new-york-city-enters-its-third-day

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by TomTerrific0420 on Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:27 pm

The body of a missing nine-year-old boy who vanished after leaving a
Brooklyn day camp has been found, a rabbi told NBC News on Wednesday.
Leiby Kletzky was last seen around 4:50 p.m. on Monday, police said.
Investigators had a "person of interest" in custody, WNBC's Jonathan
Dienst reported.
According to WNBC, police searched a dumpster in the 20th Street and
4th Avenue area of New York City early Wednesday after being told
"evidence linked to the child's disappearance could be found there."
The rabbi, who was not identified by WNBC, said that the child's
parents had been informed that his body had been recovered. They were
said to be "devastated."
Leiby was supposed to meet his parents about seven blocks away from
the day camp at Yeshiva Boyan on 44th Street in Borough Park, but did
not show up.
It was the first time the boy had been allowed to leave the camp on his own, sources told NBC New York.
WNBC reported that the "person of interest" was arrested in the Kensington area of Brooklyn.
A police source said that the man "told police the area in which the body could be found."
Surveillance videos

NYPD Chief Joseph Esposito spoke to residents in the Hasidic community Tuesday night.
He later told reporters that police had several surveillance videos
showing the boy walking alone, including one that was in the opposite
direction from where he was supposed to be going.
Assemblyman Dov Hikind said there was additional video of the boy
walking on a nearby road that shows him talking to what appears to be an
Orthodox Jewish man. Hikind said Tuesday that police were looking for
that man.
A reward of $100,000 had been offered for information regarding the missing boy's whereabouts.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43736497/ns/local_news-new_york_ny/

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by mermaid55 on Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:16 am


Brooklyn Man Arrested After Missing Boy's Remains Found in Suspect's Refrigerator, Police Say




Police have arrested a man in the killing of an 8-year-old Hasidic boy whose dismembered body was found Wednesday in the suspect's freezer and a trash bin in Brooklyn, N.Y., the New York City Police Department said.

Levi Aron, 35, was apprehended Wednesday after making statements that "implicated" him in the killing of Leiby Kletzky, who had stopped to ask the suspect for directions on his way home from camp, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.

Kelly said the child's dismembered remains were found early Wednesday in Aron's refrigerator and in a plastic garbage bag dumped into a trash bin in Brooklyn.

"This was a horrendous crime," Kelly told reporters during a press conference Wednesday.

Leiby was last seen walking home from Boyan Day Camp in Borough Park, Brooklyn, just before 5 p.m. Monday. A grainy surveillance video shows a man walking near the boy, who is seen in the footage wearing a backpack as he walks down the street, police said.

Kelly said the boy appeared to be lost and had asked Aron for directions. He said the boy's parents had agreed to let him walk seven blocks alone from his day camp to a location where he was supposed to meet his mother.

"This is the worst nightmare that can happen to anybody," Rabbi Berish Freilich, a senior leader in Brooklyn's Jewish community, told FoxNews.com.

Freilich, who knows the boy's family, described the neighborhood in the tight-knit Orthodox Jewish community of Borough Park as "very safe."

"It's an extremely safe area for children," Freilich said. "This is devastating for everybody. Who would think of hurting an innocent young boy?"

Kelly said he does not believe Aron knew the boy and described the alleged crime as "totally random."

"It was just happenstance and the terrible fate for this young boy," he said.

Kelly said that approximately 35 minutes after Leiby left the camp, he was inside the suspect's 1990 brown Honda Accord. Kelly said the suspect made statements that indicated he brought the boy to his apartment, where killed him and dismembered his body.

Investigators tracked Aron with the help of surveillance video that showed him being approached by the lost boy.

Police then visited Aron's third-story attic apartment at 2:40 a.m. Wednesday, where they found body parts believed to be Leiby's inside the man's freezer.

"When detectives asked where the boy was, Aron nodded toward the kitchen," Kelly said, adding that deputies then found a cutting board and large amounts of blood.

The rest of the body was found inside a red suitcase that had been tossed into a trash bin in another Brooklyn neighborhood, police said.

Kelly said statements made by the suspect indicate "he panicked and that's why he killed the boy."

Formal charges are pending against Aron, who lived alone in the apartment in a building shared with his parents. Aron, whose birthday is Wednesday, once had a summons for urinating in public but otherwise did not have a criminal record.

Aron has lived most of his life in New York, working as a clerk at a maintenance supply company in Brooklyn, but spent about two years living in Memphis, Tenn., where he worked briefly, Kelly said. He lived about a mile away from the boy and was believed to be Orthodox.

Kelly said detectives were investigating whether he had a history of mental illness. He would not say whether the boy had been sexually assaulted.

The medical examiner has yet to determine the cause of death, Kelly said. The New York Post, citing sources close to the investigation, reports that that boy was suffocated before he was dismembered.

Thousands of people had joined the search for Leiby, who was last seen near 44th Street and 12th Avenue in Borough Park.

Investigators hunting for the boy noticed the man on the video going into a nearby dentist about 5:30 p.m. Monday, police said. The dentist, located later in New Jersey, said he remembered someone coming into the shop who wasn't a patient, but who was paying a bill for a patient there.

Kelly said Leiby waited for Aron at a street across from the dentist's office for about seven minutes before the two got into his vehicle.

Freilich said Leiby was the only son of the Kletzky family. The couple has four daughters, and the husband works as a driver for a private car service.

New York State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, whose district includes the area, said the outpouring of support has been tremendous.

"Everybody is absolutely horrified," he said. "Everyone is in total shock, beyond belief, beyond comprehension ... to suddenly disappear and then the details ... and the fact someone in the extended community ... it's awful," he said.

A community-funded reward for information leading to the child's safe return was raised on Tuesday to $125,000 as police checked schools, synagogues, homes and businesses for any clues into the boy's disappearance.

As many as 2,000 people took to the streets Monday to search for Leiby, and crowds returned again on Tuesday, with buses carrying some volunteers in from New Jersey, the station reported. Members of the community where the boy lived described him as obedient and unlikely to talk to strangers.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/13/thousands-turn-out-to-search-for-missing-brooklyn-boy/#ixzz1S0TIccqG



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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by kiwimom on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:50 pm

NEW YORK (PIX11)—

Eight-year-old Leibby Kletzky apparently made a
wrong turn and got lost on the way to meet his parents Monday when he
came face to face with his suspected killer Levi Aron near 18th Avenue
and 44th Street, where he asked him for directions, NYPD detectives revealed Wednesday morning.

"It was just happenstance and terrible fate," a somber Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said at a press briefing at Police Headquarters.
A surveillance video shows Kletzky standing for about 7 minutes
on the corner of 18th Avenue, while Aron was inside a building paying a
dental bill. The video then shows the suspect, in a white shirt and
black pants - an outfit common among Orthodox Jewish men - leading the
boy toward his brown, metallic Honda Accord at about 5:40 pm Monday
evening.

The boy's parents, who were supposed to meet Leibby at the corner of
13th Avenue and 50th Street after he left day camp, notified an Orthodox
Jewish community patrol their boy was missing at 6 p.m.,
officials
said. The NYPD wasn't notified until two and half hours later. Soon
after, a massive search for the missing child intensified, with stories
appearing all over the television news on Tuesday.

Apparently, the publicity spooked Aron. When detectives arrived at his attic apartment on East 2nd Street in Kensington
early Wednesday morning, he was standing bare chested in a hallway.
When officers asked where Liebby was, he gestured toward the kitchen.

Cops approached a bloody refrigerator and opened the door.

"Inside the refrigerator was a cutting board with 3 cutting knives," Kelly told reporters. Human remains were in the freezer.

Aron also apparently led cops to a dumpster on 20th Street in Sunset Park,
where more remains were found this morning. Kelly said Aron told
detectives "He panicked when he saw the fliers and the amount of
activity in the community, looking for the boy." The admission appears
to indicate the child was alive for a while after he was snatched.


The Police Commissioner said it wasn't immediately clear whether the boy
had been sexually assaulted before he was murdered. Some of Aron's
neighbors said they'd noticed him offering rides to neighborhood
children in recent weeks. Aron was employed at a local hardware store,
where the owner described him as quiet and hard-working, saying he must
have snapped.

Aron had only one previous entanglement with the law. He received a summons last year for urinating in public, Kelly said.

For two years, Aron worked as a security guard in Memphis, Tennessee, before returning to Brooklyn. The NYPD is now checking with Memphis authorities about his movements there.

One of Aron's co-workers at the Empire State Supply Company, which sends
hardware equipment to apartment buildings, expressed complete and utter
shock at the allegations against him.

"He was an excellent worker, a perfectionist ... This is such a shock,"
the co-worker told PIX11 News. "The entire company is flipping out. We
can't believe it."

PIX 11 has learned Aron was at work Tuesday, when Leibby was still
missing and the large search was underway. He didn't make it in
Wednesday morning as the NYPD had already taken him into custody.

Another of Aron's co-workers observed, "Sometimes you work with people; you don't know who you're working with."

As for Leibby Kletzky, the boy was going to turn 9-years-old next week.
He had left the Boylan Day Camp on 44th Street at 5:05 pm Monday. His
parents had reportedly gone over the 7-block route he was supposed to
travel to meet them at 13th Avenue and 50th Street several times but
Leibby never made the right turn on 13th Avenue, to go toward 50th
Street. Instead, he kept walking straight on 44th Street, until he ran
into Aron near 18th Avenue.

Kletzky will never celebrate his 9th birthday while the man accused of killing him turns 35-years-old today.
http://www.ky3.com/news/wpix-details-about-missing-brooklyn-boy-surface,0,775477.story


Posters Note: We'll never know if LE could have found Leibby in time if they had been notified at 6pm instead of 2 1/2 hours later, but parents must inform LE immediately their child is missing. It's disturbing to me that they didn't.

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Post by plaidlined on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:20 pm

kiwimom wrote:Posters Note: We'll never know if LE could have found Leibby in time if they had been notified at 6pm instead of 2 1/2 hours later, but parents must inform LE immediately their child is missing. It's disturbing to me that they didn't.


As well as letting your eight year-old child walk alone in Brooklyn, New York.

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by TomTerrific0420 on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:41 pm

If I may just interject a little...
Leiby was from the Hasidic Jewish community, of which there are many members in Brooklyn, NYC. Through my past employment I was introduced to many of them.
They are ULTRA-Orthodox and they have their own Private Security forces that track down culprits in their community as many who reside there do not trust others and will not divulge info to regular LE readily. Not unlike the gang cultures and black neighborhoods in many areas. Not being racist, just factual.
This is how it is done there and contacting regular LE would not have led to a different result and, in fact, may not have been as quick to apprehend the suspect.
No matter how you look at it...it is a terrible tragedy inside a VERY religious community that is VERY peace-loving and almost never has an internal crime such as this.

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Post by TomTerrific0420 on Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:18 pm

The alleged killer of an eight-year-old Brooklyn boy made a full written
confession to authorities of how he smothered the boy with a towel and
then dismembered him, sources have confirmed to ABC News.


The confession indicated that 35-year-old Levy Aron had panicked after abducting Leiby Kletzky,
8, when he realized the entire neighborhood -- home to a tightly knit
strict sect of religious Jews -- had been searching for the boy, ABC
News confirmed.
The Brooklyn District Attorney had no comment on the man's confession.
Police on Wednesday arrested Aron, whom Kletsky had asked for directions
before his dismembered body was found early Wednesday in two separate
locations, including the man's refrigerator, authorities said.
Thousands and thousands had gathered for the youth's funeral on
Wednesday in an emotional outpouring that followed the let down when two
days of looking for the boy ended with his dismembered body discovered
in a bloody suitcase.
WNBC in New York reported that the confession was about 450 words long and was written on a legal pad.
ABC News learned that parts of the confession were graphic, but law
enforcement sources would not disclose those details, which included the
specifics of the boy's dismemberment and the packing of his body parts.
WNBC quoted the confession, noting the suspect's use of a refrigerator's
freezer for storage. That element was backed by the blood on the
freezer door handle that NYC Police Commissioner Ray Kelly noted in his
press conference earlier in the day.
Sources told ABC that the suspect also made taped admissions.
The two-day search for Kletsky ended early Wednesday when remains
believed to the boy's were found in two Brooklyn locations, two and a
half miles from each other. Body parts were found in a black plastic
garbage bag inside of suitcase in a dumpster and in the refrigerator of
the third floor attic of the home where Aron lived, police said at a
news conference this morning.
"It was a very brutal murder," New York Assemb. Dov Hikind told WABC. "This is the worst possible conclusion imaginable."
Leiby was reported missing
Monday when he did not meet his mother at a pre-arranged location seven
blocks from his camp. Police say the boy and the mother had gone to the
location Friday and she had showed him the route he was to take.
Police say Leiby left camp at 5:05 p.m. and missed the turn he was to
take to meet his mother. He was lost and asked a stranger, Aron, for
directions, police said. The suspect was reportedly described as wearing
"trappings" of the Orthodox Jewish community.
Security video footage
shows Kletzky speaking to Aron on a corner by his car, police said.
Aron then went across the street and entered a building, while Kletzky
waited for seven minutes. When Aron returned, the boy and the man got
into his car, police said.
Detectives discovered that the building was a dentist's office where Aron went and paid a bill while Leiby waited.
After locating one of the dentists at the practice in New Jersey and a
receptionist, the man's identity was determined and police went to his
house, a three story home owned by the suspect's father. Aron's parents
live on the first floor, his uncle lives on the second and he had been
living in the third floor attic apartment, police said.
Police arrived at Aron's apartment at about 2:40 a.m. and found the door
slightly ajar. The suspect was standing shirtless in the middle of the
room. When asked where the boy was, he pointed toward the kitchen,
police said.
There was blood on the refrigerator handle and police found a cutting
board and three carving knives inside along with remains that are
believed to be the boy's, police said. Aron also directed them to the
dumpster where more remains were found, police said.
Police believe Aron took Leiby to his apartment and allegedly killed him
there when he panicked after seeing all the fliers and people searching
for the child.
There is no indication that Aron was connected to the boy or his family in any way prior to this incident, police said.
The case has drawn comparisons to the mysterious and highly publicized 1979 disappearance of Etan Patz,
a 6-year-old boy who left for school and never came home. No body or
suspect was ever found and the case was re-opened in May 2010.
"I am speechless and shocked by the brutality and injustice of this
horrific crime," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler of Brooklyn said in a
statement. "As a father and a human being, I am deeply saddened that so
innocent a soul could be so cruelly taken."
Thousands of community members, investigators and detectives
participated in the search for Leiby Tuesday. The FBI was involved and a
$100,000 reward was offered. Police describe the area as a "very safe
neighborhood" and call the situation "every parent's nightmare."
An autopsy was started this morning.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-confesses-murder-brooklyn-boy/story?id=14067849&page=2

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by plaidlined on Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:09 am

Evil's own timing sends young Leiby Kletzky into path of killer Levi Aron

MICHAEL DALY

Thursday, July 14th 2011, 4:00 AM

The timing was horribly unlucky for 8-year-old Leiby Kletzky, who got lost in Brooklyn and ran straight into a killer named Levi Aron.

Eight-year-old Leiby Kletzky came out of the double glass doors of the Yeshiva Boyan day camp and turned left on 44th St., just as he had at the start of a dry run with his parents the day before.

He continued up the block to 13th Ave., to the corner where he had turned right during the prelude to his solo - and where his mother was waiting for him six blocks down 13th Ave.

Instead, he continued straight down 44th St. He proved by forgetting the turn that a youngster is not always as ready to make a solo journey as even conscientious parents in a tight-knit neighborhood might have every reason to believe.

He crossed 14th Ave. and soon came into view of a camera outside the Shomrim Locksmith at the corner of 15th Ave. He lived a dozen blocks down 15th Ave., but he did not pause or even gaze that way. One thing he knew for sure was that he was not supposed to meet his mother at home.

He went on down 44th St. with a child's sense of space and time, his sneakered feet a little boy's wings, following a fledgling's errant instinct that going straight was sure to take him to his mother.

If the killer's account is truthful, Leiby must have trekked straight on to where 44th St. dead-ended at Dahill Road. His continued faith in forward progress then sent him to the right, up this angled street that can confuse even adults.

The boy would have then suddenly found himself at the point of a triangle where three streets intersect, the third being 45th St.

Levi Aron would tell detectives that was the very moment he happened to stride up from the brown 1990 Honda Accord he had just parked on Dahill Road. Aron was on his way to pay a bill at a dentist directly across 18th Ave.

By Aron's account, Leiby asked him for directions and he told the boy to wait a moment while he paid the dentist. Some investigators wonder if Aron had in fact picked up the boy in the car after spotting him somewhere along 44th St. All agree that a red light or some other chance delay could have kept the boy from happening upon the killer. It seemed to be Evil's own timing.

"Seconds," an investigator said. "Seconds."

The triangle is occupied by a car lease broker named Tristate Fleet, and surveillance cameras it installed two months ago show Leiby waiting while Aron crosses to the dentist. The boy stepped over to 45th St. for a moment, but then returned and waited, trusting, unsuspecting.

The footage shows Aron returning and the boy following him to the car. Aron lives next to a public school, but those kids are always with other kids and no doubt would cry out if he tried to grab one. Leiby just rode off with him.

When the detectives later looked in Aron's blood-smeared freezer, they discovered he had kept the boy's severed feet. You could almost think Evil itself had taken the wings of the youngster who had seemed so safe as he set off on his solo.

Satan's instrument later sat in an interview room at the Snyder Ave. stationhouse, as calm and matter of fact as if he had never chanced into the boy.

Leiby's funeral was held just before sundown, when he would have been home and safe were it not for a missed turn and a few fateful seconds.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/07/14/2011-07-14_a_missed_turn_that_led_into_the_abyss.html#ixzz1S4pCGgSd

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by kiwimom on Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:59 am

[quote="kiwimom"]
TomTerrific0420 wrote:If I may just interject a little...
Leiby was from the Hasidic Jewish community, of which there are many members in Brooklyn, NYC. Through my past employment I was introduced to many of them.
They are ULTRA-Orthodox and they have their own Private Security forces that track down culprits in their community as many who reside there do not trust others and will not divulge info to regular LE readily. Not unlike the gang cultures and black neighborhoods in many areas. Not being racist, just factual.
This is how it is done there and contacting regular LE would not have led to a different result and, in fact, may not have been as quick to apprehend the suspect.
No matter how you look at it...it is a terrible tragedy inside a VERY religious community that is VERY peace-loving and almost never has an internal crime such as this.

LE tracked Leibby from looking at CTV footage. They easily found the address of the perp from the dentist the footage showed him coming out of. This cults own "private security forces" don't have access to CTV footage around NY and I still maintain they used poor judgement and I'm sorry Tom, but i don't give a hoot what their religious beliefs are and nobody should hide behind religion for an excuse for not reporting a child missing to LE. I thought the proposed new law regarding notifying LE when a child goes missing was unnecessary, but obviously I was wrong.
I'm also now wondering if this same community may have hidden other 'problems' or crimes committed by the perp in the past, as I find it incredible that this guy just decided to hack a child to pieces out of the blue and has never done anything wrong or in the past.
I'm just so upset about this poor child and when I read they didn't notify LE for 2 1/2 hours and were using their own resources to find him - well, lets just say I'd heard that too many times over the last 3 years and whoever says it, or why they say it - it's crap and unacceptable IMO. Anyway, it's a tragedy for the poor child and his family, and all we can do is hope there will be justice for Leibby.

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Post by TomTerrific0420 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:12 am

I never said I agreed with it, Kiwi.
I was only trying to bring some clarification to the circumstances.
Please don't be brassed off at me. It just seemed as though the earlier posts were lacking background info.
I am certain that the Maori have many "cult" like practices that we here in America would find unusual but I would certainly welcome explanations from you to help me understand what they are.
In your mind, and in others, they may be stupid as two bob watch but that does not mean we shouldn't try and figure out what caused the delay.

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Post by kiwimom on Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:37 pm

TomTerrific0420 wrote:I never said I agreed with it, Kiwi.
I was only trying to bring some clarification to the circumstances.
Please don't be brassed off at me. It just seemed as though the earlier posts were lacking background info.
I am certain that the Maori have many "cult" like practices that we here in America would find unusual but I would certainly welcome explanations from you to help me understand what they are.
In your mind, and in others, they may be stupid as two bob watch but that does not mean we shouldn't try and figure out what caused the delay.

I'm sorry Tom, I see it came across that I was mad at you, but I can assure you it was frustration at the actions of Leibby's family, and I did appreciate your explanation of the Hesadic commuinity. LYLAB

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by TomTerrific0420 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:07 pm

For a couple of hours on Monday night, Leiby Kletzky,
8, sat in a car outside a catering hall in Rockland County, N.Y. The
windows were rolled down, if the man suspected in his killing is to be believed.
More than 400 people were at a wedding inside the hall, including the
man who had driven Leiby there, Levi Aron, 35.


Levi Aron was arraigned
in a Brooklyn court Thursday.


No one apparently noticed
the little boy sitting there on the warm night. And no one knew then
that Borough Park, Brooklyn, was mobilizing to find him. Leiby was 35 miles from home,
where his world was defined by family and
religion and community and Mr. Aron’s by dead-end jobs and marriages
that fell apart. They encountered each other on a sidewalk in Borough
Park, one a lost child who needed directions, the other an adult from
nearby Kensington who indicated he could help. On Thursday,
three days after they met on the sidewalk, the police were
trying to sort through Mr. Aron’s account of how he had met the boy, and
what had happened during the undetermined time that they spent together
before the boy was suffocated and dismembered. Mr. Aron appeared
in Brooklyn Criminal Court and pleaded not guilty to
charges of kidnapping and murdering Leiby. Judge William Miller ordered
him held without bail and said he would have to undergo a psychological
evaluation after his lawyer said Mr. Aron might have mental problems.
The lawyer, Pierre Bazile said, “He has indicated to me that he hears
voices and has had some hallucinations.” He also said Mr. Aron had
“indicated despondency and concern for his well-being.” Mr. Aron,
in a green-checked shirt, stood stone-faced.
The police said Mr. Aron had scratches on his wrists and arms that they
believed were indications of a struggle. They did not have a precise
time of death, a law enforcement official said, but believed it was on
Tuesday. There is “nothing to indicate otherwise at this point,” said
the official, who, like others discussing the case, insisted on
anonymity because the investigation is continuing.
The police said Mr. Aron told them that when he realized how many people
were looking for Leiby — thousands of volunteers had joined the search,
putting missing-person posters on street corners and in subway stations
and all but turning the neighborhood inside-out — he became afraid to
take him to his parents or to the authorities.
The police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, said at a news conference
that that was when Mr. Aron, according to his account, had panicked and
suffocated Leiby. Mr. Aron told the police that he had smothered the boy
with a towel. Leiby, Mr. Aron told the police, “fought back a little
bit until eventually he stopped breathing,” according to his confession,
portions of which were reported by NBC New York.
Mr. Kelly said there were also ligature marks on Leiby’s body,
indicating that Mr. Aron might have bound him as he killed him.
Mr. Kelly said detectives had corroborated much of what Mr. Aron had told them.
The police said Mr. Aron offered Leiby a ride — Monday had been Leiby’s
first day to leave day camp by himself, and he had ended up blocks from a
rendezvous point with his mother. The boy had asked for directions to a Judaica bookstore, and Mr. Aron
said he knew the way. He also offered Leiby a chance to watch
television, something the police said the boy could not do at home.
But Mr. Aron could not find the bookstore, and ended up taking Leiby
along to the wedding, at Ateres Charna in Rockland, north of New York
City. While the police have confirmed that Mr. Aron was at the wedding,
they have not yet determined with certainty whether Leiby was there,
too. “He indicated that he left the boy in the car, when he stopped in,” a
law enforcement official said, “and he didn’t stay that long, because
his back was bothering him and he left the kid in the car with the
windows open.” It was not clear if the bride and bridegroom were aware that
Leiby was outside in the car. The following morning, Mr. Aron said, he left Leiby in his attic
apartment when he went to his job at a hardware supply store. Mr. Aron
told the police that the boy was still asleep when he left for work.
While it was not clear exactly when Leiby was killed, detectives were
confident that the parts of Leiby’s body found in a Dumpster on 20th
Street had been put there not long before the police went to Mr. Aron’s
apartment. “He got rid of it Tuesday going into Wednesday,” the law
enforcement official said, adding that detectives were working on the
theory that Mr. Aron had driven to the Dumpster alone.
Paul J. Browne, the chief spokesman for the police, said crime scene
technicians had checked the yard of the house where Mr. Aron lived — his
father and uncle have apartments on the lower floors — and found no
evidence that anyone had been buried there.
As Mr. Aron was being arraigned, relatives and friends struggled to make
sense of the case against him. Some talked of his fondness for karaoke,
saying he had spent weekend evenings at karaoke bars on Long Island.
Keith Pappas, the general manager of the South Levittown Lanes bowling
alley, which has a bar that schedules regular karaoke events, said that
he did not know Mr. Aron, but that bartenders and other customers did;
they told Mr. Pappas, he said, that Mr. Aron did not mingle much with
others. In Brooklyn, neighbors said he had been hit by a car when he was young.
Louis, 41, who said he had known the Aron family since the 1970s and
asked that his last name not be published, recalled that Mr. Aron’s
mother had died several years ago. He said that Mr. Aron’s parents were
in the process of separating when she died. Court records show that in 2004, Mr. Aron married an Israeli woman,
Diana Diunov. They divorced a year later, and in 2007 he married Deborah
M. Parnell and moved to Tennessee, where she had come from. Ms.
Parnell’s mother, Carol Wagner, recalled the time before the wedding.
She spoke of an engagement party in New York at Mr. Aron’s father’s
home, the same house where parts of Leiby’s body were found early
Wednesday, in the freezer of Mr. Aron’s refrigerator. But the marriage fell apart, and Mr. Aron returned to Brooklyn.
Co-workers at the hardware-supply company described him as a loner who
had had no contact with customers. Sam Lowy, 35, a salesman, said that Mr. Aron was on the job on Tuesday,
when other store employees helped search for Leiby. “We all searched,”
Mr. Lowy said, “the employees, everyone went out, Jews and gentiles, to
search.” He added, “It hit us harder.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/15/nyregion/suspect-pleads-not-guilty-in-leiby-kletzkys-death-and-offers-account.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by Annabeth on Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:19 pm

This is so very sad and beyond comprehension......this poor little boy, may he rest in the Arms of God

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Re: LEIBY KLETZKY - 8 yo - Brooklyn NY

Post by TomTerrific0420 on Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:04 am

Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes says investigators are
looking at whether homicide suspect Levi Aron had any improper contact
with children in the past.
Detectives also have been examining three computers seized from his home.
Aron pleaded not guilty Thursday. He's accused of kidnapping, killing
and dismembering an 8-year-old boy who asked him for directions.
Prosecutors allege he lured Leiby Kletzky to his home Monday after the little boy got lost while walking home from a day camp.
A judge has ordered Aron to undergo a psychological evaluation. His
lawyer says Aron hears voices and has suffered from hallucinations.
Other inmates screamed obscenities at the pale and disheveled defendant as he was led out of the courthouse holding cells
Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/Investigators-Look-Into-Possible-Levi-Aron-Past-Child-Misconduct-20110715-APX_14139775#ixzz1SC7LWQaU

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