Re: Docs Nov '09 - Questions

by kiwimom on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:02 pm

I think you're right about that syringe being the medicine one. We figured that out in the end for memory. I thought I saw there was nothing found on the washed pants. I'll keep looking. Thanks for helping too Bella

by mom_in_il on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:23 pm

kiwimom wrote:I think you're right about that syringe being the medicine one. We figured that out in the end for memory. I thought I saw there was nothing found on the washed pants. I'll keep looking. Thanks for helping too Bella

Some similar items are listed here: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540603/detail.html

page 56 of 1765, or their page 10618, Item 50 maybe

And I know we saw something like this in an earlier search warrant. Still looking.

by kiwimom on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:24 pm

mom_in_il wrote:
kiwimom wrote:I think you're right about that syringe being the medicine one. We figured that out in the end for memory. I thought I saw there was nothing found on the washed pants. I'll keep looking. Thanks for helping too Bella

Some similar items are listed here: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540603/detail.html

page 56 of 1765, or their page 10618, Item 50 maybe

And I know we saw something like this in an earlier search warrant. Still looking.

Thanks Mom. I'd better go and get the dinner. See you tomorrow

by The_Thinker on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:11 am

MIZBELLA wrote:Clonazepam is also Klonopin and there are various generic names for Clonazepam and klonopin....if someone finds the prescriptions taken from the Anthony's let me know and I will look up the name in my nursing med book.

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Altace = Ramipril - for high blood pressure
- Propoxyphenen - narcotic pain relief
- Carisoprodol - Somadril - muscle relaxant
- Clonazepam - Rivotril - for anxiety, insomnia
- Hydrochlorothiazide - Aquazide H, HydroDIURIL, for high blood pressure and fluid
retention
- Lexapro - Escitalopram - for depression

Clonazepam
Pharmacy - Drugs Info and Prices
COMMON USES: This medicine is a benzodiazepine used to treat seizures and panic
disorder. It may also be used to treat other conditions as determined by
your doctor.
got this off of Walgreens website.

by mom_in_il on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:28 am

Thanks Thinker! You always come through!!

by The_Thinker on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:29 am

Doc dump Feb 18, 2009

Mother Hyperventilated When Caylee's Body Found
Wednesday, February 18, 2009 – updated: 10:28 am EST February 18, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- New documents released by the State Attorney's
Office show the mother of missing Florida toddler
Caylee Anthony hyperventilated and asked for medication when she was notified
that her daughter's body had been found last December.

10:38 a.m.Documents prepared by investigators shows authorities found a World of Disney bag near Caylee Anthony's
remains in the heavy wooded area less than a mile from her home. Inside
the bag investigators discovered a Gatorade
Cool Blue bottle with unknown liquid and white sediment. A syringe in a wrapper
was found inside a toilet paper roll that was in the bottle. Other items found at the scene: Winnie the Pooh blanket with Piglet; pink letters that spelled
"big," "trouble," "small," and "comes";
torn black plastic bag, a canvas bag, size 3T tag on
a strip of cloth; pieces of possible training pant or diaper; and size 24M
shorts.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/2/18/new_documents_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html?refresh=1

by The_Thinker on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:32 am

From WFTV
Investigators also took a number of Cindy's
prescription medicines and Caylee's in December and are testing Caylee's
remains for all of them. Investigators also found mysterious stains on patio furniture and a rug at the
Anthonys' home, which is less than a mile from where the remains
were found. Those are also being tested.

Along with a skull and bones, investigators found the stained Winnie the
Pooh blanket, a pink-and-white-striped shorts and a shirt that said 'BIG
TROUBLE Comes Small" in the woods at the crime scene. The skull had duct
tape over the mouth similar to duct tape found at the Anthony house and the
remains were found in a laundry bag and plastic bag that also were similar to
ones found at the home, according to the documents.

Marti Mackenzie, a spokeswoman for Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, said in
an e-mail that the detectives' reports were "biased and speculative."

"You can't sell a defense that someone else did it when the evidence is
excluding those individuals and becoming consistent with the mother in this
case," said WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer.

The link http://www.wftv.com/news/18739816/detail.html

by mom_in_il on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:42 am

So Caylee could have been dosed with grandma's meds. How sad is that . . .

by hawaiicalls on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:45 am

mom_in_il wrote:So Caylee could have been dosed with grandma's meds. How sad is that . . .

Morning, Thinker, mom_in_il....Maybe that's part of the "guilt factor" with CA, perhaps "I didn't say anything" was about the meds...Just sickening, no matter who drugged her...

That syringe bugs the hell out of me...Thanks for this good info...y'all ROCK!

by The_Thinker on Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:01 am

I accidentally left off the first page of the list of Cindy's meds which were taken during the December 20th search warrant and released in the Feb. 18, 2009 doc dump.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/3464-3513redacted.pdf
pg 48-49 of 50

ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE
FORENSICS SECTION
REPORT OF CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION

HOMICIDE/SEARCH WARRANT
The following items of evidence were collected from the residence:

Additionally, all prescription drugs located in the residence were documented by Steve McElyea, Seminole County Sheriff’s Office/F.B.I. task force as follows:
------------------------------

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/fbireport.pdf
pg 16 of 24 PDF / pg 5596 of report

Q59-Q59.1 Hair Mass (1B105, E4381283 & 1B107, E4381285)
This report contains the results of the toxicology examinations of item Q59.1.
Results of Examinations:
Alprazolam and clonazepam were not detected in the Q59.1 hair.

Additionally, the hair sample was screened for the following with negative results:
flunitrazepam, diazepam, midazolam, oxazepam, nordiazepam, triazolam, temazepam, lorazepam and ketamine.

Remarks:
(clip)
The Q59.1 hair sample was not tested for chloroform, as this examination is not deemed probative by the FBI Laboratory’s Chemistry Unit. Testing of the Q59.1 hair sample was focused on alprazolam, clonazepam and other benzodiazepines pursuant to communications between Forensic Examiner Madeline A. Montgomery and
Medical Examiner Jan Garavaglia on December 17, 2008.

by The_Thinker on Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:09 am

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/fbiexpertevidence.pdf
pg 49 of 86 on PDF
As listed on OCSO Property Form H-51975:
Item 3 – Doll – Q216
[Analyst Note: This doll was found in
the vehicle which was believed to be used to transport CAYLEE to the location
where her remains were found. The
doll may have been with CAYLEE when she died or during the transportation of
her body. In addition to whatever
testing the Lab deems appropraite, TP/ORA requests that the doll be examined
for hairs showing signs of decomposition and any
chemicals or foreign substance that may have been used in CAYLEE’s demise.]

by The_Thinker on Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:11 am

It is believed that the little plastic, heart shaped hair clip is on Caylee's hair in this photo.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/fbiexpertevidence.pdf
pg 47 of 86 of PDF / pg 9347 of report
To: Laboratory From: Tampa
Re: 7A-TP-71176, 11/20/2008

As listed on OCSO Property Form J-60055:
Item 1 – One hair clip – Q200
Note: Plastic, cream colored, heart design
[Analyst Note: During examination of the duct tape found on CAYLEE’s remains, the Lab
identified a residue in the perfect shape of a heart indicating that a heart
shaped sticker may have been placed on the duct tape. The hair clip is submitted because it has the shape of a heart on
it, for whatever processing the Lab deems appropriate.]

by The_Thinker on Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:27 am

mom_in_il wrote:So Caylee could have been dosed with grandma's meds. How sad is that . . .

It would be sad .... but the Lab said that Cindy's Clonazepam (muscle relaxant) was NOT detected in Caylee's hair mass. Neither was Alprazolam/Xanax detected.

The Cepuroxime is a strong antibiotic.
Protonix is for acid reflux

by mom_in_il on Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:42 am

The_Thinker wrote:
mom_in_il wrote:So Caylee could have been dosed with grandma's meds. How sad is that . . .

It would be sad .... but the Lab said that Cindy's Clonazepam (muscle relaxant) was NOT detected in Caylee's hair mass. Neither was Alprazolam/Xanax detected.

The Cepuroxime is a strong antibiotic.
Protonix is for acid reflux

I was looking at the handwritten notes, trace amounts of clonazepam noted three trimes . . .

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540603/detail.html pages 510/11111, 517/11118 and 518/11119

by MIZBELLA on Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:58 pm

The_Thinker wrote:
mom_in_il wrote:So Caylee could have been dosed with grandma's meds. How sad is that . . .

It would be sad .... but the Lab said that Cindy's Clonazepam (muscle relaxant) was NOT detected in Caylee's hair mass. Neither was Alprazolam/Xanax detected.

The Cepuroxime is a strong antibiotic.
Protonix is for acid reflux

But what if the day Caylee died was the first time she was dosed with the Clonazepam? If she was dosed only one time, I don't think that it would be detected in the hair mass.